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 Post subject: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:48 am 
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What is the maximum resolution DSD files which the X100 will play? My DAC, Gustard X20, is good for up to 512, but I can only play up to 128, Have tried 256 but get nothing, regardless of the settings in Squeezelite.
This brings me on to a question about the HQ player App, which I have installed, but can't figure out how to use it. When I click on it as an app it takes me to a page where the option is to restart HQ player, can't find a GUI for it. The app doesn't appear in the settings page.


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:06 pm 
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What port are you using to play the DSD?
Have you updated the GUI - the selection option to play have been changed.
Also could be your DAC uses DOP rather than Native or both or depends ...
Will try HQ player App & see...


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:22 pm 
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i am using the USB and although the DCA is suitable for native DSD, only the DoP option gives any sound. The USB goes to a Gustard U12 where the USB signal is islated, processed etc. and then provides AES, IIS and coaxial and optical SPDIF outputs. Both of the Gustard units are capable of DSD256.


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:28 pm 
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I have 128 & 256 dsd & some pcms & dxds.
They play fine but you have to check, some of the files must be unzipped especially if its large/downloaded.
dff & dsf could react differently, depending on the dacs.
Some Dac claim to be able to accept the feed but aren't!!!
You may need to use DOP via the cocktail Audio & of course via asynchronous port.
Some expensive dacs do not work but many do or may need driver updates even if the X100 plays it the Dacs/amps can't product the sound!


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:35 pm 
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mickhick1 wrote:
i am using the USB and although the DCA is suitable for native DSD, only the DoP option gives any sound. The USB goes to a Gustard U12 where the USB signal is islated, processed etc. and then provides AES, IIS and coaxial and optical SPDIF outputs. Both of the Gustard units are capable of DSD256.


You still need to check the Dac if it can render 256 via the output port.
Opticals can only do 92/192 not 384 hz.
The packets may be hard for the dac or you could try another settings.
Some dacs may require updates or only work with a few softwares.


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:54 pm 
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U12 is okay but can have driver issues sometimes.
Try not to use the usb 3 and check if there are drivers for the U12.
For the squeeze settings, i think you are ok, but make sure the audio switch is active & reboot with all the ports connected & see?
U12/x12 tends to do more PC testing on macs good chinese makes but less testing as those of us in the UK prefer more audio & pc testing :)


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:15 pm 
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FarrUK wrote:
mickhick1 wrote:
i am using the USB and although the DCA is suitable for native DSD, only the DoP option gives any sound. The USB goes to a Gustard U12 where the USB signal is islated, processed etc. and then provides AES, IIS and coaxial and optical SPDIF outputs. Both of the Gustard units are capable of DSD256.


You still need to check the Dac if it can render 256 via the output port.
Opticals can only do 92/192 not 384 hz.
The packets may be hard for the dac or you could try another settings.
Some dacs may require updates or only work with a few softwares.

Thanks, but it is well documented online that the X20 can play up to DSD512. I am aware of the limitations of the optical SPDIF and have already said that I am using the Asynch USB out of the X100. FWIW I have connected the U12 to the X20 with the IIS output, which is the one capable of up to 512.
Have you been able to use the HQPlayer app?


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:29 pm 
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Well it seems the U12 is only able to do dsd up to 128. But even with the X100 connected directly via the USB it still won't play 256.
I have to say though that with the U12 between the X100 and DAC, the sound on all compatible formats and bit rates is fantastic.
Still can't make HQPlayer work though.


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:44 pm 
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mickhick1 wrote:
Well it seems the U12 is only able to do dsd up to 128. But even with the X100 connected directly via the USB it still won't play 256.
I have to say though that with the X12 between the X100 and DAC, the sound on all compatible formats and bit rates is fantastic.
Still can't make HQPlayer work though.


I can play dsd256 with quite a few dacs...try & update the u12-x12 amp/dac & see
I haven't tested the Pro X100 HQPlayer, will have & go & let you know, how to setup the feature.
Some dacs only test dsd256 via PC & release updates later. :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Playing DSD Files
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:23 pm 
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mickhick1 wrote:
i am using the USB and although the DCA is suitable for native DSD, only the DoP option gives any sound. The USB goes to a Gustard U12 where the USB signal is islated, processed etc. and then provides AES, IIS and coaxial and optical SPDIF outputs. Both of the Gustard units are capable of DSD256.


Not all the DAC that state NATIVE can actually play DSD (tried a few myself).
It could be computer only support via their driver & software of the manufacturer.
So you have to select the option on the web-interface to enable DSD playback/sound.
Some DAC manufacturers only support certain platform for DSD - so check their instructions.


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